5-cycle corners, blindfold

[kemot_13]

Hello everyone,

I would like to say sorry if I'm writing this topic in bad place, but I don't speak French.
Now I'm learning 5-cycle method from your site- francocube.com and I have a few questions to you:
1. Could you tell me if anyone use this method. If yes, what times do you have?
2. I have a bit problem with recognizing cases, for example this one-> URF->ULF->DRB->URB->DRF. So my question is: is that all algoritms for 5-cycles or should I made mirrors?
I look forward to your answers. Thank you for help

Speedcuber from Poland,
Tomasz "kemot_13" Korzeniewski

[deadalnix]

I have learned the method but then, I switched to BH because I'm interested in big cube blind and BH give center safe solutions. So you can solve corners before centers.

Anyway, i'm not very fast in blind, mostly because I'm more interested in method than in speed. So my time are not a good measurement. But when i was using this method, it was faster than BH, especyally with many little short cycles (2-2-3 or thing like that).

You have on the page all possible cases with only U/D set-ups. You can probably reduce the number of cases by learning how to set-up one in another.

The interesting point of the method is that you can solve the corners of any cubes in only 4 algs. It's very effective for execution, but also for memorisation : you just need to remender the 4 algs you have to do, not the cube state.

[kemot_13]

Thanks, your answer is very useful. Now I know that this method works and you motivated me to continue learning If enyone else have used this method please discribe your story with this method

[deadalnix]

I know that many cubers are using the orientation part (I think Guillain Potron is using it, but I'm not sure).

But I don't know if many have learn the permutation part.

[Gprano]

No, I don't use it.
I wanted to learn it (at least the orientation algs), but i'm too lazy for that kind of method. I think it can be efficient with some training, so you can apply the algs without any hesitation.
I just sticked with 3cycle for corners (but i learned the 2-2 cycles).

But if you have the motivation, give it a try. Hayang Zhuang knows over 500 algs for blindfold, and it seems to work..

[kemot_13]

So far I have lernt a few cases from 2-2, rest I'm doing with simple set-ups. About 5-cycle cases, I know 21 cases for this moment and I have only 5 algs less to full 5-cycle. In orientation part I have only 7 algs, but with that I can orientate corners in max 2 algs, I'm doing set-ups of course
Thanks for good word from you. When I'll lern and practise a lot this method I'll post about that here

[Tissycuber]

salut deadalnix, toi qui utilise la méthode BH pour le bld des coins estc que tu peut meconseller sur comment les apprendre et les comprendre ( comment as tu fait)

[auguste]

Euh...

Y'a une différence entre la 5-cycles présentée sur le site et la BH qui a 5 fois plus de cas...
C'est quoi que tu veux ?

[Tissycuber]

plus haut ,deadalnix dit que la méthode BH des coins ne touche que les coins, ( ce que je croyait aussi pour les 5 cycles), alors j'aimerait savoir comment les 5 cycles affectent les edges.

[oranjules]

elle n'affecte pas les edges bien entendu...
PS : c'est quoi la méthode BH ? il en parle pas sur francocube...
PS2 : la seule méthode de blind coins qui influe sur les aretes c'est old pochmann

[deadalnix]

La 5-cycle influe sur l'orientation des centres. On s'en fiche pour le 3x3x3 mais c'est un problème sur les gros cubes si on veux résoudre les coins avant les centres (ce que je conseille d'un point de vue mémo).

Par contre, BH marche par insertion de cycles quand il y a plusieurs cycles, ce qui fait que cette méthode est moins efficace sur les cubes avec plusieurs cycles. Au contraire, la 5-cycles permet de TOUJOURS résoudre les coins en 4 séquences.

[SqAtx]

PS2 : la seule méthode de blind coins que je connais qui influe sur les aretes c'est old pochmann